raid lockout conflict

Please, please, either fix it or remove it. I'm sick of trying to apply for groups that I qualify for only to find out I have a raid conflict that doesn't exist.

dead horse is dead

yes, I think I have the same problem at times.

When I have joined a raid starting in the middle and do not have a save myself, and the original RL end up leaving or such after wiping on the boss and I wanna try continue the raid and LFM...

let's say I joined for Dark Shamans boss , and have no save in SoO that week. If I Create Premade in there I have to mark it as Flex or LFR, if I pick SoO-10 , as the raid is, it will be using info on my save when listing on the Find Premade list, and appear as 0/14 , so someone who has a save at Iron Juggernaut, or any prior boss, will not be able to queue for my group even tho they should be able to and their save does not prevent them, and will tell them "raid lockout conflict" cos oQueue seem to assume my save is used (even tho I took over RL in the middle of the raid, not having killed any boss not getting saved anywhere yet..), and as such exclude many people from being able to waitlist for the premade.

No biggie as I'd just make it Flex or smth and thru its title make it clear it is actually NORMAL and not Flex as indicated , it is more of an annoyance when I try join other ppls group the same way.. pretty sure many aren't aware of this way around this restriction, and many times I wish to join for a boss like halfways in, if the RL has no save and I am saved to only the first boss or so, I will not be able to queue..

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anyway, the raid lockout conflict filter is not working well other ways aswell. Cos if I check the 'qualified' filter it removes many premades from the list, but if i un-check this checkbox, I am still able to queue for many of them (some of which Im apparently even ineligible for :d ). So when its few groups around Ive made it a habit to try queuing for grps that oQueue tries to block me from unrightfully, cos some times it'll still work.
Sry bad state of mind atm n not sure of details or how to explain it fully..

Also.. many times after original RL left the raid leaving only a few ppl who wanna continue, I say that I don't wanna be RL but can help to LFM, sort tacts,role assignments or whatever , and will ask to be given temporary RL status only so that oQueue will allow me to create the premade (it requires being Raid Leader to make a premade), I would just make the premade, then pass RL back again, and it would still be listed and ppl able to queue for it (while im not RL (just having assist in order to inv if needed)). While it requires RL to update the details/requirements for the raid, there is some way around this in some circumstances, u don't have to click the 'Create Premade' button after makign changes (like to the group title, or ilvl req..), simply change it then browse the other tabs, eventually u may see the change applied to the list. For example just type a password in there, while u're not RL and supposed to be able to at that point, can set a password without clicking the Create Premad button afterwards.

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Also, u may change ur gear to high ilvl in order to enable setting a high ilvl req. (oQueue will try deny u from setting ilvl req higher than that of ur own ilvl (which is good!)), but if u change back gear afterwards, once in the raid its mostly fine, but if u leave instance or play with the interface a bit, u may get spammed with frequent messages stating something like " you must meet the requirements of your own group" (while the requirements are still what u set it to at first tho, not matching current gear's ilvl).

When I have been made RL to continue an abandoned raid with a few other of its members trying to re-build the grp, dun wanna be RL just offering to help LFM and get RL-status for a minute just to get it up with oqueue, if requirements mismatch, or some other thing Im not sure how was caused.. suddenly it sets weird requirements to it like a "minimum resilience" or such, which has nothing to do with the raid or is a requirement i care about, and presumably restricts others not meeting this requirement which seems to be set by itself for some reason, some times.. maybe because I had a pvp part on the char and it based it on that? not sure. ..

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Also somewhat unrelated to OP, but just throwin it out there, tho may have heard b4... some times when I try invite russian-named people, possibly from a certain russian realm, or with long names or special (?) chars, it gives some long error code. It adds them to my friendslist though, so I manually click to inv them, but oqueue fails to invite these and gives some weird errors. It's kinda rare, and the ones affected seems to be aware and likely used to it happening for some reason, as they often by themselves whisper me after they got added to my list, asking me to manually invite instead.

Also, I'd want some kinda flag/sign for the non-specified one aswell (allowing all languages (i use addon Prat with google-transalte on the side in browser and usually have no problem with basic communication with ppl who only speak french,german, russian or such by copy/pasting back n forth into google-translate..)), for sake of attention of the premade. As with google and other search engines, when ppl use features such as the "announce premade" with search filters enabled, u wanna increase ur success-rate, and same when u make a grp and its a sea of other grps, u wanna get attention to ur group and make it as easy to find for others as possible. Therefore Ive learnt to include foreign names on bosses for example some times, abbreviations and different ways of writing the group name in order to increase search visibility.

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For example a group for garrosh 10 normal, I woud include in title and descr both "garrosh 10 normal" (in whatever order and emphasizes/signs), and also soo-10 nm , or for example the spoils boss in french, the french ppl often title it "butin" (i assume this is the french name for the Spoils boss..), or spanish/portuguese calling gruops for the Celestial boss on timeless Isle "Astres", I try include as many variations and combinations of possible search strings and in different languages. The character limit however limits this opportunity somewhat. Mayb good if the bosses could get a standardized drop-down menu to select from such as the 'Premade type' and 'Sub type' drop-down menus, making boss names universal of locatable somehow even if they have different names that ppl in non-english countries don't know the english name of..

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Another thing... limiting possible roles abilities to queue is a good thing, but when its not possible to see it in advance before clicking it (and the delay w8ing for response, often while clicking several different grps to try queue for..), it is very annoying when it tells me i dont meet the requirement/role. As such I think its a bad idea for ppl to restrict the roles able to queue, cos someone who tried queuing for a group once and got the annoying declined-message, are unlikely to try it again later when the RL may have made more classes/specs able to queue aswell if they come to need it, cos its not stated anywhere, and I'd just assume that group does not need dps and wouldn't bother with the hassle re-trying to queue for it then, and ppl are missing out.. personally I try make my grps as available and "broad" as possible some times , and rather not invite those who does not fit my desired criteria, instead of having the system auto-declining them and in a way they wuold not be able to predict, or tell if has been made changes to,and just live with need purging list more frequently

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Yet another thing...bad ppl u wish to give negative karma, they should not be able to evade the karma by leaving the grp fast. Not sure if its cos of the "group within a group" in the case for Flex raids, or something else, but some times their frames in the 'Premade' tab is still visible after they have left, and many ppls frames are not visible , or haev a (some times long, minutes ++ , if ever) delay before showing (even if they appear to have updated oqueue and all). Some times the frame order seems to be messed up, and I try give karma to someone, and I'd usually click it repeatedly to confirm my action. It would tell me my own battletag and that I had "already given karma" to that one today.. lol! not sure why, and if really possible, but maybe some way to make the system think ones own btag is someone elses (the frame states their name and all.., but when repeatedly clicking to give karma, it replies with MY batletag on rare occasion, after they have left and I guess there are some data corruption .. im not sure I was actually credited karma by myself as such though (didnt check/cant remember).

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Also, I often try dig up ppls btags for diff reasons, if not oqueue preventing contact with them otherwise, someone I wish to ban in hindsight (like if they ninja something and quickly leave, removing traces of them being there some times and afterrwards not being able to give them karma..^^ ) , its inconvenient having to do things like right-click the X next to premade names (meant for banning ppl's btags) to simply display ppls battletags..... but its something I frequently do to quickly find ppls btags, like search some user/grp name, and then (for wahtever reason) may desire to see their btag, and woudl right-click the X meant for banning, typing it in there and ctrl+a & ctrl+c to copy it , before clicking escape to cancel the ban-box.

Also the fact u lose karma urself, or gain, by giving other ppl karma, and that karma slowly moves towards zero one per day, is not good imo, and gives bad pplp an apparent "clean record" way too easily, especcialy if they dont play alot every day karma will not be any issue for them, in addition to discouraging ppl from using the feature in the first place in fear of getting bad karma by giving otehrs (meant to help the community, and a subjective single rating)

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